Abortion Questions from Listener: Answers

a babyI always receive “rebuttal” email or calls when I talk about the importance of preserving life in the womb. Here is an email with comments fairly representative of what I hear all of the time. I don’t think the comments are irrational. But I believe some brief, inline replies can show why I don’t believe they are sound assaults on the pro-life position either.

Dr Creamer,
…[off topic greetings]…
Now I wanted to respond to your subject today. I am pro-life in some ways and pro-choice in other ways. [So here are] The questions I’m about to ask you and I hope you put this on your talk show or blog.

Before I respond to the questions, it is important to understand the positions before us. The claim of many people that they are partially pro-life and partially pro-choice is usually inaccurate. It is the pro-choice position. The point of the pro-choice argument is that while abortion might be tragic, it ought to be legal. The point of the pro-life position is that abortion ought to be illegal. Everyone thinks life is valuable. The difference between the two sides is whether life in the womb merits the same protections given to life outside the womb. That protection means that claiming “I believe abortion is wrong but that it ought to be up to the woman” is the pro-choice position. (There is, in reality, a substantial pro-abortion group as well, and they identify themselves only as pro-choice. But their agenda is the promotion of abortions and reduction in the total number of live births, usually for purposes of population control. That problem is for another discussion.)

First question: if I am 3 months pregnant and find out I have ovarian or cervical cancer do you believe it’s right for me to abort the baby? You really have to wonder if the radiation treatment or medicine could harm the fetus, so what should a woman do, because in your standards it’s still murder.

This question takes many forms but has no significance when one facet of the pro-life position is taken into consideration: that life in the womb is morally equivalent to life outside the womb. So let me imitate the question: A man has two sons drowning but only one rope and time to throw to and save only one son: is it right for him to let one of his sons drown? Or, if I were a Nazi rationalizing the holocaust to someone objecting to the murder of innocent Jews and gypsies: “If a village will be consumed in a catastrophic mine explosion unless a brave German soldier blocks off every air passage to the few Jewish miners who will then be trapped there to die, is it right to kill those Jews?” What’s the point! The fact that there are times when we cannot save everyone in some tragic situation in no way makes it right to kill anyone. It is not right to kill the Jews in that mine, even if it is impossible for them not to die while saving the village. But that fact will never in any way justify (make right) leaving it permissible to kill Jews in Germany. By the same token, saving one son does not make it right to allow the other one to drown. We must do all the good we can to save lives, and then acknowledge not that it was right not to save the others, but that we have failed to save some of the lives under our care. Such would be the case with an ectopic pregnancy.

But the fear that a baby might be born sick or infirm because of exposure to radiation or chemotherapy even adds another level of moral failure to the queue. When we decide some lives would not be worth living or preserving because of sickness or infirmity then no life would any longer be valued as life. Rather, every life would be valued only because of certain levels of “quality” or “contributory value”, levels which would transform over time to exclude anyone whose presence would be inconvenient for those of us on the other side of the threshold.

Second question: let’s just say I am pregnant with twins and working a job that pays $5.00, plus my husband is making the same. Should I rely on the system and hope I get help, or should I give the baby up for adoption?

Let’s say it this way instead: suppose you already have six-week old twins and lose your $100,000/year job and find out you will have no income whatsoever. Should you kill the babies so they don’t have to suffer, give them up for adoption, or find a way to raise them yourself? As a pro-choice pastor once said to me: “if a young woman tells me she’s going to kill herself if she has to deliver this baby, what am I supposed to do?” And my reply: “And if that young woman said she was going to kill herself if she had to spend one more day with her two-year-old, what would you say? Kill the two-year-old!?”
Welfare is beside the point, by the way. Whether you should take welfare or not has nothing to do with your children, and so I will leave it for another discussion.

It is as simple as this: respect life in the womb as life outside the womb. There are tragedies which make it impossible to save every life in the womb just as there are which make it impossible to save every life outside the womb. But all of those lives are worth valuing and protecting the same: in heart, in practice, and in law.

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  • Carmen says:

    Very good answer the woman I reference in the first senario I believe kept her baby however my prayer group lost contact with her. I had this same discussion with another woman this time she was the fetus in the womb when her mother found out she had breast cancer while carrying her. She said her mother chose life and lasted through a cancer that spread she lasted 16 years of her life. So it took 16 years for the cancer to finally kill her, but she said her mother had been battling cancer even before she got pregnant so there are strong women out there that can deal with what ever life brings them and those that cannot.

    I love having Obama as president and I pray daily that God will protect him and although he has this abortion issue I will pray for him on this issue because I know prayer is the answer to everything.

    After 20 years of being married to the same man God finally gave me a son who is 3 years and 10 months and to this day I thank God for him and if I had to make a choice I would lose my life for him anyday.

    Carmen

  • Barry,

    Working in the liberal social services field, I find myself having to defend my pro-life position often but have always presented the argument that it is a human rights issue and I’m only advocating for the most vulnerable population there is. However, my wife was presented with a difficult argument a few years ago I wonder how you would address.

    An attorney asked her if she supported the death penalty. She replied that she didn’t personally but would not deprive a family’s legal right to justice. She replied that is exactly why she was pro-choice. She was against abortion personally but could not deprive someone else from having the right to choose for themselves. While she countered with the innocent life argument, the attorney told her that, if she is really against abortion for the protection of a human life, then she would be adamantly opposed to the death penalty.

    I am interested as to how you would handle this argument. Do you see a logical conflict between holding a pro-life view and supportive view of the death penalty? Thanks!

  • Barton says:

    Shane,

    On the surface, that does seem like a good argument for a pro-choice position. Some of the youth in my ministry raised this issue while discussing abortion recently. The problem with this analogy is that the death penalty is a form of punishment for wrong-doing, and abortion is not. Punishment, while often viewed negatively, is a good thing. Punishment for sin is demanded by our just God (hence the cross). So, unless Agatha and Arthur (the precogs) can show foreknowledge of unborn babies committing horrendous in the future, it is not correct to compare their deaths to the deaths of those who actually have committed these crimes.

    I’m not BC, but I hope this helps

  • Hey Barton!

    That makes great sense to me but doesn’t work for the pro-abortion argument against the pro-life position. If life is precious, shouldn’t every life be protected regardless of the choices they have made? Of course I am playing devil’s advocate but this is an argument that we need to think through since it is more readily used by pro-abortionists. If we make a stand on life alone, it may present problems when presented when this approach. But I agree that the best answer I can come up with is that it is innocent life versus guilt life judged by the laws of the land. I think that we need to continue to present the case that it is a human rights issue.

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